‘HARM REDUCTION’ IN VICTORIA BYELECTION 2010: ALTO, FILIPOVIC, HENRY, HOBBIS, ANDERSON, SIRK, MORA WANT TO EXPAND IT. HUGH KRUZEL + SUSAN WOODS ARE OPPOSED TO IT

“I’ve seen the needle and the damage done…”

-Neil Young

 

SUSAN WOODS + HUGH KRUZEL ARE OPPOSED:

TO DECENTRALIZED COMMUNITY SITES,

‘MOBILE NEEDLE EXCHANGES’ + A FIXED SITE

Positions of two remaining Victoria City Councillor Candidates

Paul Brown and Rimas Tumasonis:

 unknown at this time

‘HARM REDUCTION’ is a subject that is being strangely avoided for the most part in this election, although it is proving to be a subject of more interest to people on the streets than ever before, no matter what side of the debate one finds oneself on.

Like the issue of ‘global warming’ or ‘climate change’, despite what proponents of these theories say, I believe that the actual science on all of these matters is far from settled, and there are actually two antithetical positions on ‘harm reduction’ in stark contrast to one another which are represented by actual people in the byelection, but which are not being debated enough.

These Candidates and other interested Victoria citizens will now have a public opportunity to debate the issue right here, if they like, being forwarned that after they have made their initial policy contributions known to us in plain unadorned English, in the public interest, they may then very well be subject to all manner of mocking provocative commentary that might rattle their nerves somewhat.

No profanity nor vulgarity in the commentary is ever allowed here, of course, but you are free to try to crucify each other if you so wish, but do it in a genteel Victorian manner, folks, and let’s not get too rude, eh?

Both advocates of, and opponents to the theory and practice of ‘harm reduction’ are unhappy with the present situation in Victoria.

We invite all of the Candidates, therefor, to send us their comments to this posting in the comments section below, or send us an email to share what they would like others to know about their position on this issue.

We regret that we have not approached this research in any kind of scientific manner at all so far.

 I hope I can be forgiven for publishing this as-yet unfinished list of the positions of the Candidates, and that in the next two or three days, we will have tracked everyone down, and all the relevant information contained here will expand and finally become complete before voters go to the polling booths on November 20, 2010.

Thanks to everyone for participating in this debate in the public interest.

– Gregory Paul Michael Hartnell, President

Concerned Citizens’ Coalition

 

R. I. P. JEROME HENRY HARTNELL

DIED OF AN OVERDOSE AT 18

MORPHINE + ALCOHOL

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3 Responses to ‘HARM REDUCTION’ IN VICTORIA BYELECTION 2010: ALTO, FILIPOVIC, HENRY, HOBBIS, ANDERSON, SIRK, MORA WANT TO EXPAND IT. HUGH KRUZEL + SUSAN WOODS ARE OPPOSED TO IT

  1. Pedro Mora says:

    Gregory Hartnell,
    It is indeed regrettable that your brother tragically died of drug abuse; and I understand Heather Hobbs, from the Victoria Harm Reduction services, passionately suggesting that we as a caring society, should proceed with the needed support services according to health evidence rather than with emotional or moral panic.

    Politicians are not necessarily experts the treatment and management of Drug abuse, so I would defer this decision to a referendum, and I would suggest that concerned citizens read the conclusions by Dr. Benedict Fisher and Dr. Perry Kendall publish on the BC Medical Journal in 2008

    Concerned citizens can also examine the results of drug management published on http://www.communityinsite.ca, and the “Law Enforcement Against Prohibition” website at http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

    I could be wrong, but I have the feeling that most citizens believe that war on drugs is futile, and the best option is education and management.

    Sincerely
    Pedro Mora

  2. goyodelarosa says:

    Gracias, Senor Mora:

    Thank you very much for you kind remarks with respect to my late brother Jerome Henry Hartnell, R.I.P., who was found by our dearly departed mother Sheila Mary Margaret Turnbull Hartnell R.I.P., dead in his bed, after a stupid night of hellish monkey business shooting morphine and drinking beer with some of his so-called ‘friends’.

    Jerome choked on his own vomit, and his face was quite blue, sir, when our dear mother found him.

    There was no such thing in those days as the theory of so-called ‘harm reduction,’ nor were there addicts running amuck on the streets of Victoria, nor could that dubious philosophy ever have saved him.

    Abstinence-based recovery could have saved him if we had all known better at the time, but we didn’t understand that then, and apparently thousands of you fanatical people don’t get that simple fact yet either, unhappily.

    I actually agree that the so-called ‘war on drugs’ is futile, so there, we are on the same page.

    However, I also recognize that these Orwellian social engineering experiments that come under the counterintuitive umbrella term ‘harm reduction’ have been tried and found wanting in Victoria since 1989.

    Unlike you, sir, I have lived here most of my life and remember a time when we were not enabling active addicts at public expense, and there was no such thing as the wide-open shocking behaviours effectively encouraged by men in white suits with an ideological agenda to prove.

    Thus, ‘harm reduction’ is actually bad social health policy, because it does absolutely nothing in terms of holism, perpetuates addictive anti-social unhealthy criminal behaviours, and just helps the sold-out Establishment socialist politicians on Victoria City Council like Dean Fortin, Pamela Madoff, Philippe Lucas, Lynn Hunter, Chris Coleman, John Luton, Charlayne Thornton and the departing Sonya Chandler and the Victoria Police Department perpetuate a system of contradictions.

    Just watch this lot accommodate yet another raise demand soon for their unionist friends in the police officers’ union, those shameful thuggish cops of the VicPD.

    You’ll note that I do not use moralistic arguments in arguing against it, nor do I need to, because first of all, the problematic behaviours have to be stopped completely in their tracks before a proper medical examination of the sick addict’s whole lifestyle is given to her or him.

    In these desperate cases, holistic healing of the whole human being is what needs to happen immediately.

    Instead, you ‘harm reductionist’ people condemn these people to a slow death on the installment plan, by simply and exclusively obsessing about one thing and one thing only; the transmission of blood-borne diseases, as if that phenomenon just sort of happens all by itself…

    Go figure, mi amigo!

    God bless you, Pedro, for your misguided efforts to improve democracy through the use of computer programmes: on that I commend your efforts… be patient, direct democracy will come, all in good time…

    But as far as addictions recovery, abstinence-based treatment and holism is concerned, I think you are not looking at the whole picture, and neither is anyone else who thinks that by giving active addicts needles, society is somehow being compassionate and helping them.

    This just allows the police to keep up their futile work, hassling them, arresting and charging them, then letting them go to do it all over, again and again, as the courts are all clogged up by these sick people, and as these deadly hard drugs are still illegal, more or less, everywhere in the world.

    If the governments of the world in all their wisdom or foolishness can’t figure out a way to stop this scourge without actually perpetuating it, don’t you think they would all have legalized all the contraband by now, and implemented ‘universal integrated harm reduction services’ globally by now?

    The simple fact that they have not should tell you something: they like ‘harm reduction’ as long as it perpetuates the decadent status quo ad nauseam.

    They will thus never allow ‘harm reduction’ to be used as a stepping stone to eventual legalization, and you should have enough common sense to understand that, as a thoughtful compassionate man.

    That is the greatest contradiction of all, to see well-intentioned if somewhat naive social workers, nurses, cops and all manner of other delusional ‘do-gooders’ like yourself advocating the perpetuation of never-ending misery, unhealthy, anti-social and criminal behaviours, and to then pretend, like your very own Dr. Perry ‘Strangelove’ Kendall, who serves in the capacity of the Chief Medical Officer of the Province, that he doesn’t even know if there are social problems on Pandora Avenue!

    Such shocking, clueless, cynical, ideological, fanatical blindness… all these words apply to this mad, irresponsible Doctor from England who would expand this truly scary policy, like your fellow Councillor Candidates Marianne Alto, Barry Hobbis, Saul Anderson, Steve Filipovic, and others in this byelection campaign, all of whom have promised us that they would continue and even expand this miserable nonsensical counterproductive monkey business.

    Adios, amigo!

    Gregory Paul Michael Hartnell, President
    Concerned Citizens’ Coalition
    (alias: ‘Goyo de la Rosa’)

  3. goyodelarosa says:

    Here is some good recovery news: an influx of young people seeing the light in Victoria, courtesy of the Victoria News:

    http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_south/victorianews/news/106909223.html

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